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Survey Results – “Climate Change – Fact or Fiction”

October 24, 2010

The results of the Climate Conty survey are provided in six sections consisting of: 

 I.  SURVEY – AS POSTED
II.  RESULTS
III. NOTES
IV. SUMMARY
V. PERSONAL COMMENTS
VI. EXCERPTS FROM VARIOUS COMMENTS

 
I. SURVEY – AS POSTED

This survey was designed to better understand how members feel towards Climate Change. For the purpose of this survey, “Climate Change” is that induced by human activities. Also, as used in this survey, “Remediation” is understood to include governmental controls taken through regulations and laws.

Please indicate your choice by placing an “X” in front of the appropriate number. Please feel free to post any relevant comments.

___ 1.    “Climate Change” is a problem that requires immediate remediation by all countries only if a worldwide accord has been reached.

___ 2.    “Climate Change” is a problem that requires immediate remediation by each individual country, independent of a worldwide accord.

___ 3.    “Climate Change” is a problem that requires immediate remediation through a bilateral agreement between the U.S. and China, only.

___ 4.    “Climate Change” is a problem that requires immediate control by the U.S., independent of a worldwide accord.

___ 5.    “Climate Change” is a problem that needs a worldwide accord before any remediation is taken, even if takes another 5 years.

___ 6.    “Climate Change” is a problem that needs a worldwide accord before any remediation is taken by any country including the U.S. and China, even if takes 10 years.

___ 7.    “Climate Change” maybe a problem that should be watched over the next 10 years before any debate is taken by any country including the U.S. and China..

___ 8.    “Climate Change”  lacks evidence, not a problem and requires no action by any country including the U.S. and China.

___ 9.    “Climate Change” is an illusion and should be taken out of the vocabulary.

 
II. RESULTS

A. General Information:

1. Survey was restricted to 50 LinkedIn Groups.
2. Approximately 80% of the LinkedIn groups sampled were “Energy” related.
3. Total Number of Groups Responding from Posting in 50 Groups: 38 (66%)
4. Total Number of Comments Received: 1107
5. Total Number of Responses Received with a Clear Choice Given: 343 (31%)
6. Number of Responses Received with a Choice Given >9: 16 (5%)
7. Responses Received as Private Emails from LinkedIn Member: 53
8. Additional Responses Received as Private Emails from LinkedIn Member: 53
9. Number of Pages at Arial (10 pt), Single Spaced: 369

B. Data:
Individual Choices – by Rank
Choice………..%
2…………..48.4%
8…………..15.2%
9…………..13.4%
7…………..11.1%
1…………….6.1%
4…………….3.2%
7…………….1.7%
5 ……………0.9%
6…………….0.6%

Combined Choices – Three Groupings
Choices……….%
1,2,3,4……58.9%
7,8,9………39.7%
5,6…………..1.5%

Logical breaks dictated by a demarcation between those who believe Climate Change requires action: “IMMEDIATELY” (Choices 1, 2, 3 and 4), “WITH IN 10 YEARS”  Choices 5 and 6) and “MORE THAT 10 YEARS” (Choices 7, 8 and 9).

Combined Choices – Two Groupings
Choices………………%
1,2,3,4,5,6…….60.3%
7,8,9…………….39.7%

Logical break dictated by a demarcation between those who believe Climate Change “IS” and “MAY NOT”  be a problem.
III. NOTES

1. Percentages (%) determined from respondents that selected a Choice.
2. Respondents providing multiple Choices were tallied in the lower or higher Choice that best matched their comment.
3. Choices given >9 (not a survey Choice) were included in Choice 9, but noted separately.
4. This survey was not designed, executed and polled on a scientific basis.
5. Best effort was made to accurately record, tabulate and summarize the responses.. Unintentional errors may exist due to the copious amount of responses and the manual method of tabulation.
IV. SUMMARY OF RESULTS

Nearly forty-nine (49%) percent of the respondents reported that they believe “Climate Change” is a problem that requires immediate remediation by each individual country, independent of a worldwide accord. Choice #2

As a distant second, fifteen (15%) percent of the respondents felt that Climate Change”  lacks evidence, not a problem and requires no action by any country including the U.S. and China. Choice #8.

Thirteen (13%) percent of respondents indicated “Climate Change” is an illusion that should be taken out of the vocabulary. Choice #9

Combined, about fifty-nine (59%) percent of respondents felt that “Climate Change is a problem that requires immediate action. Choices 1,2,3 and 4.

Combined, nearly forty (40%) percent of respondents felt that “Climate Change” is possibly not a problem and no action is required within the next 10 years. Choices 7, 8 and 9.

Combined, less that 2% of the respondents felt that “Climate Change” is a problem and some action should take place within the next 10 years. Choices 5 and 6.

Similar percentages of 60% and 40% were given by respondents when choices were combined into two groups consisting of those that consider “Climate Change” “IS” and “IS NOT” a problem, respectively. Choices 1, 2, 3 ,4 and 5 (IS) verses Choices 7, 8, and 9 (IS NOT).
V. PERSONAL SUMMARY AND COMMENTS

The most obvious conclusion of this survey is the extreme polarization of people into two camps of about equal size (60% vs. 40%). Even split by weighing 6 selections for the 60% group against 3 sections for the 40% group.

Notably, in a strong reflection of recent scientifically structured polls on this subject, this survey showed a similar trend that a large number of people believe that Global Warming is a natural cycle of the Earth rather than the result of human activity. See Gallup Poll (http://www.gallup.com/poll/126560/Americans-Global-Warming-Concerns-Continue-Drop.aspx).

With strong and unwavering beliefs on both sides, the challenge is not to change beliefs but to find a uniform path that achieves separate goals for a collective win-win solution. One away is move from “Climate Change – Fact or Fiction,” to “Economics. – Strength or Weakness.” It is useless to argue whether anthropogenic GHG emissions cause climate changes or global warming. However, agreement can be reached by looking at the economics of exporting dollars for foreign oil. The answer is plain dollars and cents and not El Niño, La Niña, unseasonable climate conditions, hurricanes, melting ice, non-attainment zones, etc. For the most part, how much is spent, how much is owed and how much is in the bank is undisputable. Just, “Follow the Money.”

To the extent  that the U.S. uses petroleum and other oil derived products, the nation exports about $2 million a minute, $117 billion a month and more than $1 trillion a year for foreign oil (all countries: Persian Gulf, OPEC and Non OPEC).  Since viable alternate energy options exist, why is it so difficult for the U.S. to expand usage. Europe and other countries are able to do so. Without exception, continuing this path is economic suicide. Significant reductions in the amount we spend on foreign oil will: stimulate the economic landscape; keep dollars in the U.S. for job creation, R&D, development and manufacturing; and by the way reduce GHG emissions.

This is not to imply that the transition from foreign oil to renewable and sustainable forms of energy has not started. It has but at a snail’s pace. With the abundance of affordable (with a little help from Uncle Sam) and reliable alternative solutions, the U.S. should be moving much faster.

For the most part, no technological breakthroughs are needed to use the vast supply of natural gas under our feet, nuclear energy, domestically made solar panels, wind turbines and adopting across the board energy efficiency measures. The lack of infrastructure keeps coming up as a reason for the freeze on using natural gas as a fuel for vehicles. Had the U.S. allocated $15 billion from the ARRA for natural gas fueling station, at least 15,000 natural gas filling stations could have been built across the nation. By design this would create jobs for land developers, civil engineers, architects, local equipment manufacturers, construction companies, station owners and workers.

It is not so surprising that a key impediment comes from our own government and regulatory agencies, such as the EPA. In some cases, the regulations make it so costly and difficult to adopt alternatives, that cheap foreign oil, remains the best option.

The question comes up “What is the true cost of petroleum?” In simple terms, the everyday price of oil does not reflect many hidden costs, such as the escalating trade deficit, decline in foreign investment in T-Bills, added health-care and protection of our overseas oil supply lines by the DoD. There is also the duality of purchasing oil from petro-oligarchs with regimes, which may conflict with U.S. interests. One can argue with credibility and certainty that our government is subsidizing the oil industry and other sovereign nations.

Finally, in terms of GHG emissions, there is no question that carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons and sulfur hexafluoride are GHGs.  However. water vapor, which is a more abundant and effective greenhouse gas is not generally discussed in the context of regulations. The EPA characterizes water vapor as a strong GHG. However, it is removed from the regulated list on the pretext that water vapor results from climatic feedbacks related to the warming of the atmosphere rather than a direct result of industrialization.

In closing, whether GHGs are the cause of climate change or global warming, is therefore questionable but the simple fact remains – WHY GAMBLE ON THE FUTURE when alternatives exist that result in economic and environmental vitality.

 
VI. EXCERPTS FROM VARIOUS COMMENTS

Climate has always changed and always will …..

Placing the blame for climate change solely on mankind is ignorant …..

Climate change will occur on our planet regardless to what we do …..

The question is do we continue to implement harmful technologies and contribute additional greenhouse gases which we know in cases can cause negative effects?

This survey is irrelevant. Whether you believe there is climate change or not, there is very little you can do about it.

I believe human activity is contributing closer to 3% of the total CO2 emissions. Kinetics will tell us that this should not cause doubling the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. If man has done anything wrong it is not CO2 emission it is deforestation.

The argument in political and populist circles seems to have taken an almost religious tone, “do you believe….”. Much like creation and evolution, one topic is about faith and belief, the other is about science.

“Dozens of scientists are demanding that their names be removed from a widely distributed Heartland Institute article entitled 500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares.” I will look some more.

___ 10. “Climate Change” is a scare tactic and a political instrument that is being used to redistribute wealth from the rich nations, primarily the USA to poor nations, with the poor nations having no cap on the amount of pollution they can produce.

___ 11. “Climate Change” is a natural occurrence in nature, as we have had both warming and cooling periods through out history. Science has proven this.

___ 12. “Change” is a natural occurrence in the earth’s life-cycle, as is continental drift, creation of mountains, desserts, erosion and the rising and falling of the tides.

Worse than marketing. Perpetuating Ignorance. Non-Stop bombardment of mis-information & ill defined real explanations.

Personally remove all the hype controversy, political and vested interests and I believe we are already in serious trouble, satellite images past and present are not reassuring

Since carbon dioxide is 3% of the total and humans contribute a WHOPPING .038 of the 3%. I would be concerned as well… Wow!

It’s a complete illusion, and serves no other purpose than to construct a new trade commodity, namely – carbon credits.

Climate change is real, has been going on since the the beginning of time and it is only the arrogance of a few to think they can change conditions of planet.

__X__ 10. “Climate Change” is real, but the cause is not clear. Both the cause and the possible actions to address and adapt to it deserve serious and thoughtful study.

Climate Change – Let’s see, 25,000 years ago, the Great Lakes was covered by an ice sheet 5,000 feet thick.

Care for the world that we have been allowed to live on is the responsibility of every human being. It is not governments, countries or others that need to treat other human beings, living things and earth with respect it is the duty of everyone to treat our home with care and respect.

“…… Even if we do not yet fully understand all the mechanisms of climate change, we do understand enough of it to know that it is a serious problem…”

Green and renewable energy simply makes sense.

The only hurdle, then, is to make international direct investment in green technology into a valid business proposition.
The breakdown in responses by group. That’s as granular as I can get.

Group                                                                                                      %
ADEPP Networking…………………………………………………………………………….1.7%
ALTERNATIVE ENERGY NETWORK…………………………………………………..3.2%
Alternative Fuel Vehicles……………………………………………………………………..0.3%
Battery Innovation………………………………………………………………………………0.3%
Biofuels…………………………………………………………………………………………….0.9%
Business Dev…………………………………………………………………………………….0.3%
BUSINESS NETWORK WORLDWIDE………………………………………………….0.3%
Cellulosic Ethanol………………………………………………………………………………0.9%
Clean Energy Community……………………………………………………………………1.5%
Clean / Green Opportunity…………………………………………………………………..2.6%
Cleantech Group LLC…………………………………………………………………………0.3%
CleanTech………………………………………………………………………………………..0.3%
CleanTX……………………………………………………………………………………………0.6%
Electric Vehicle………………………………………………………………………………….6.1%
Executive Suite………………………………………………………………………………….3.2%
Global Natural Gas Group…………………………………………………………………..0.3%
Global Renewable Energy Network (GReEN)………………………………………..2.0%
Green & Sustainability Innovators & Innovation Network………………………..10.5%
International Renewable Energy Solutions…………………………………………….0.6%
Linked:Energy ………………………………………………………………………………….11.1%
MIT Enterprise Forum Dallas Chapter……………………………………………………0.6%
Oil & Gas Industry Professionals…………………………………………………………..0.3%
On Startups – The Community For Entrepreneurs……………………………………2.0%
Renewable Energy Business Network/Clean Economy Network……………..18.7%
Solar Energy Professionals – PV & Thermal……………………………………………5.0%
Sustainability Professionals………………………………………………………………….2.9%
Texas Institute for Sustainable Technology Research………………………………0.6%
The Renewable Energy Network …………………………………………………………13.7%
Private……………………………………………………………………………………………….9.3%
Total                                                                                                       100.0%
 

Group %
ADEPP Networking……………………………………………………………………………1.7%
ALTERNATIVE ENERGY NETWORK…………………………………………………3.2%
Alternative Fuel Vehicles……………………………………………………………………0.3%
Battery Innovation……………………………………………………………………………..0.3%
Biofuels……………………………………………………………………………………………0.9%
Business Dev……………………………………………………………………………………0.3%
BUSINESS NETWORK WORLDWIDE………………………………………………..0.3%
Cellulosic Ethanol………………………………………………………………………………0.9%
Clean Energy Community……………………………………………………………………1.5%
Clean / Green Opportunity…………………………………………………………………..2.6%
Cleantech Group LLC…………………………………………………………………………0.3%
CleanTech…………………………………………………………………………………………0.3%
CleanTX……………………………………………………………………………………………0.6%
Electric Vehicle…………………………………………………………………………………..6.1%
Executive Suite…………………………………………………………………………………..3.2%
Global Natural Gas Group……………………………………………………………………0.3%
Global Renewable Energy Network (GReEN)………………………………………..2.0%
Green & Sustainability Innovators & Innovation Network………………………..10.5%
International Renewable Energy Solutions……………………………………………..0.6%
Linked:Energy ………………………………………………………………………………….11.1%
MIT Enterprise Forum Dallas Chapter……………………………………………………0.6%
Oil & Gas Industry Professionals…………………………………………………………..0.3%
On Startups – The Community For Entrepreneurs……………………………………2.0%
Renewable Energy Business Network/Clean Economy Network……………..18.7%
Solar Energy Professionals – PV & Thermal……………………………………………5.0%
Sustainability Professionals………………………………………………………………….2.9%
Texas Institute for Sustainable Technology Research………………………………0.6%
The Renewable Energy Network …………………………………………………………13.7%
Private………………………………………………………………………………………………..9.3%
Total 100.0%

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4 Comments leave one →
  1. October 24, 2010 11:54 AM

    I truly believe that MAN MADE global warming is a hoax of the highest magnitude. In 1100-1200 AD the earth was warmer than it is now. It was also determined that sunspot activity was much higher then. WOW the sun causing global warming. You bet. There is more sun activity now too. Other planets in our solar system are getting warmer too. There is not one single person there to cause a change. Guess what people in 1100-1200Ad had a longer growing season for food. They could farm farther north also. Does that sound like doom and gloom for man? We need a longer growing season now more then ever. And we need more land to farm.
    In the past there has been times where there were NO POLAR ICE CAPS. I suppose man caused that too. Give me a break.
    I urger everyone to go onto the NSA web site and find out the total weight of the atmosphere world wide. Then get the amount of CO2 generated my man for a year. It is meaningless. Al Gore likes to scare everyone by saying the number of pounds of CO2 generated by the US. But he never mentions the total weight of the atmosphere. Now you know why.
    Also Gore stands to make BILLIONS if cap and trade are passed into law. Am I the only one that sees the conflict of interest???
    Back to NSA they are projecting that in 2012 the sun spot activity may be the highest ever.
    You can bet the temperature is going to increase dramatically too.

    It is time for people to think for themselves instead of being lead around like a herd of sheep.

  2. October 24, 2010 12:18 PM

    Climate Change Experts

    Keeping with the precepts of this group, this discussion has malice toward none. The intent of this discussion is to question a grievous situation, that if left unattended could have wide ranging ramifications; politically and socially. As previously noted, challenge and debate is healthy. But should it be done this way with lack of facts. perfect or imperfect. Like Cuba Gooding Jr. said in “Jerry Jerry Maguire: “Show me the money!” In this case, I ask the naysayers to “Show me your facts.”

    As you read this article, ask yourself this question: “If sick, would you seek the advice of a plumber.” Religion aside, when belief and absolutism rules over facts (qualitative or quantitative), the stage is set for a dangerous situation. Look at the Salem Witch Hunt and WWII.

    It’s a shame that a few overzealous scientist may have stretched the truth and damaged their reputation. Subsequently, a bipartisan international committee, has exonerated the scientists and ruled in favor of their results. We forgive criminals when release, then why do some burn a “Scarlet A,” on the entire scientific community.

    One last point, as mentioned in the my discussion “Climate Change Survey Results,” maybe for good reasons, the sentiment towards “Anthropogenic Climate Change,” is radically changing from belief to disbelief. Gallup Poll’s annual update on Americans’ attitudes toward the environment showed 48% of Americans now believe that the seriousness of global warming is generally exaggerated, up from 41% in 2009 and 31% in 1997, when Gallup first asked the question, http://tinyurl.com/barry-stevens89.

    Enough proselytizing, on October 20, 2010, John M. Broder, of “The New York Times,” reported in
    “Climate Change Doubt Is Tea Party Article of Faith” (http://tinyurl.com/barry-stevens88):

    “Climate change is real, and man is causing it,” Mr. Hill said (at a Tea Party Meeting in Jasper, Indiana), echoing most climate scientists.”

    “A rain of boos showered Mr. Hill ……”

    “It’s a flat-out lie,” …… “I read my Bible,” ….. “He made this earth for us to utilize.”

    “Skepticism and outright denial of global warming are among the articles of faith of the Tea Party movement …..”

    “And 8 percent of Tea Party adherents volunteered that they did not believe global warming exists at all, while only 1 percent of other respondents agreed.

    “….. the fossil fuel industries, which have for decades waged a concerted campaign to raise doubts about the science of global warming and to undermine policies devised to address it.

    “They have created and lavishly financed institutes to produce anti-global-warming studies ……”

    “Their views are spread by a number of widely followed conservative opinion leaders ….. who oppose government programs to address climate change …..”

    “Groups that help support Tea Party candidates ….. (are) founded and largely financed by oil industry interests ……”

    “The oil, coal and utility industries have collectively spent $500 million just since the beginning of 2009 to lobby against legislation to address climate change and to defeat candidates …..”

    In closing, Capitol Hill is most likely addressing the Climate Change issue in a truly political fashion that maybe both inappropriate and/or ineffective. But, a song by Peter, Paul and Mary, “Where have all the flowers gone,” brings to mine the question, without government regulations:

    Where have all the polluted streams gone, where have all the smog filled cities gone, where have all the ascetically pleasing open pit mines gone, where have all the gas guzzling cars gone, where have all the damaged forests gone, where has all the contaminated food gone, an where have all the industry causing environmental and health damage gone?

    Maybe none of the government regulation that addressed the above issues have been perfect, but where would be today without them.

  3. Clifford Goudey permalink
    October 25, 2010 7:33 AM

    A basic understanding of the properties of CO2 is all that is needed to understand why AGW could be happening. A cursory look at global indicators of climate change is all that is needed to see that something significant and worrisome is happening. I am not a climate scientist and therefore am unable to judge the correctness of the various models that are making consistent predictions of what is occurring and the consequences of where we are headed. However, I do understand the motivations behind the campaign to discredit this body of science. That is the hoax – brought to us by big oil and big coal – and folks like Mr. Riney who parrot the misinformation will ultimately have to bear some of the responsibility for the unfortunate outcomes.

  4. October 25, 2010 10:41 AM

    I did not parrot anyone. I did my own research. Anyone can instead of listening to the money driven world control group. Everybody says the oil and coal industry are behind anti global warming because of money.
    NO ONE SAYS A WORD about the amount of money that cap and trade carbon credit people are going to make. Gore alone is estimated in the billions. That is just one person.
    So Mr. Goudey I challenge you to do some research of your own.
    Go on the NSA web site as I mentioned and find the total weight of the atmosphere. Find the amount of man made CO2 produced every year.
    Then do a comparison.
    Do you know anything about 1100-1200 AD? Do you know about the sunspots then and now?
    Do you know about the bombardment of sun activity predicted for 2012?
    Do you know the earth has been without ice caps before?
    Do you know that other planets in our solar system are getting warmer too? This was not reported by anyone from the US.
    So now who is the parrot?
    It is time to think for yourself and do not let any big organization lead you around. No matter which side it is.
    Thank you,
    Terry Riney

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